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	<title>Comments on: DEFENSE INDUSTRY REPORT III: Nobody wants to be a hipster but everybody wanna be hip</title>
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		<title>By: Defense Industry Report VIII: WHERE HAVE ALL THE GOOD CRIMES GONE? - ARTHUR MAGAZINE &#8211; WE FOUND THE OTHERS</title>
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		<dc:creator>Defense Industry Report VIII: WHERE HAVE ALL THE GOOD CRIMES GONE? - ARTHUR MAGAZINE &#8211; WE FOUND THE OTHERS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 06:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The salon bedhead. The hundred dollar jeans slouched off the ass. I saw him get off the RISD bus.  Jac Currie was the very guy we were Defending Brooklyn from! Of course he would be related to that thieving-ass [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The salon bedhead. The hundred dollar jeans slouched off the ass. I saw him get off the RISD bus.  Jac Currie was the very guy we were Defending Brooklyn from! Of course he would be related to that thieving-ass [...]</p>
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		<title>By: DEFENSE INDUSTRY REPORT IV: Who are these cops and why do they keep following me? - ARTHUR MAGAZINE &#8211; WE FOUND THE OTHERS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DEFENSE INDUSTRY REPORT IV: Who are these cops and why do they keep following me? - ARTHUR MAGAZINE &#8211; WE FOUND THE OTHERS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 00:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] those who haven’t kept up with the Defense Industry Reports 1, 2 or 3 Dave Reeves is about to realize that printing the words &#8220;Defend Brooklyn&#8221; on a three [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] those who haven’t kept up with the Defense Industry Reports 1, 2 or 3 Dave Reeves is about to realize that printing the words &#8220;Defend Brooklyn&#8221; on a three [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. McGinnis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. McGinnis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 17:44:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am NOT Gavin. I am from The Tremé and 9th Ward of New Orleans, plagued by the same problems as New York. And way MORE problems, actually.

See, my point is who the hell cares what people dress like, how much money they have or whatever - what counts is what you DO. The DNO crew actually gives a fuck about the hood - they actually DO defend New Orleans. Also, I very much like fashion - so I don&#039;t see that as a criticism.

&quot;Defend New Orleans&quot; is a mantra that has been in use since the revolutionary war - people had signs on their windows when I was a child. It&#039;s basically something you see ALL OVER THE SOUTH on front lawns, so I don&#039;t know how they are any more of plagiarists than you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am NOT Gavin. I am from The Tremé and 9th Ward of New Orleans, plagued by the same problems as New York. And way MORE problems, actually.</p>
<p>See, my point is who the hell cares what people dress like, how much money they have or whatever &#8211; what counts is what you DO. The DNO crew actually gives a fuck about the hood &#8211; they actually DO defend New Orleans. Also, I very much like fashion &#8211; so I don&#8217;t see that as a criticism.</p>
<p>&#8220;Defend New Orleans&#8221; is a mantra that has been in use since the revolutionary war &#8211; people had signs on their windows when I was a child. It&#8217;s basically something you see ALL OVER THE SOUTH on front lawns, so I don&#8217;t know how they are any more of plagiarists than you.</p>
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		<title>By: DAVE REEVES</title>
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		<dc:creator>DAVE REEVES</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 17:29:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dear gavin,
if you think that those Defend New Orleans assholes  are more than the worst kind of fashion hipsters  who have had to swaddle their plagiarism in charity then wait for the next Defense Industry Report.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dear gavin,<br />
if you think that those Defend New Orleans assholes  are more than the worst kind of fashion hipsters  who have had to swaddle their plagiarism in charity then wait for the next Defense Industry Report.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. McGinnis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. McGinnis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 17:28:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.S

Firstly IS a word.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S</p>
<p>Firstly IS a word.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. McGinnis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. McGinnis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 17:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Times are changing. Instead of trying to keep neighborhoods poor for our inner film fantasies, we can buy Defend New Orleans products - made by &quot;hipsters,&quot; who use proceeds on inner city non-profit housing and art organizations!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Times are changing. Instead of trying to keep neighborhoods poor for our inner film fantasies, we can buy Defend New Orleans products &#8211; made by &#8220;hipsters,&#8221; who use proceeds on inner city non-profit housing and art organizations!</p>
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		<title>By: DAVE REEVES</title>
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		<dc:creator>DAVE REEVES</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 17:11:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dear gavin,
firstly is not a word.  secondly the whole article is absurd, my style is absurd and it&#039;s absurd that you don&#039;t see that. So don&#039;t get your panties in a bunch preaching that sixties hippie doggrel to me. This are new times, pal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dear gavin,<br />
firstly is not a word.  secondly the whole article is absurd, my style is absurd and it&#8217;s absurd that you don&#8217;t see that. So don&#8217;t get your panties in a bunch preaching that sixties hippie doggrel to me. This are new times, pal.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. McGinnis</title>
		<link>http://www.arthurmag.com/2009/10/21/defense-industry-report-iii/comment-page-1/#comment-176273</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. McGinnis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 17:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Firstly, I never said you were not poor, however, there is something very telling in the fact that you&#039;re writing for a major alternative paper while mourning the passing of crime and filth. ACTUAL poor people (people born in poverty: black or white or anything else) would never argue to have needles thrown around their doorsteps so they can keep rich people out. It&#039;s absurd.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Firstly, I never said you were not poor, however, there is something very telling in the fact that you&#8217;re writing for a major alternative paper while mourning the passing of crime and filth. ACTUAL poor people (people born in poverty: black or white or anything else) would never argue to have needles thrown around their doorsteps so they can keep rich people out. It&#8217;s absurd.</p>
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		<title>By: DAVE REEVES</title>
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		<dc:creator>DAVE REEVES</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 16:50:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey gavin,
see the gay neighborhoods are usually like the west village and chelsea have traditionally been turned out by the art crowd before  the double income no kids crew moves in. 

here is an article in the washington post that might help you understand what i am saying and then we can get back to your  more general kvetching about &quot;Poor people&quot; , which may be the most racist and overbearing part of your scree. What makes me not poor? My whiteness?

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/20/AR2007022001912.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this kind of press from the washington post&lt;/a&gt;

&quot;Overnight, another preserve of working-class American culture is rendered unaffordable to thousands of families -- and to the hipsters themselves. Want to know the next move? Toll Brothers, the nation&#039;s preeminent McMansion builder, has built a new luxe waterfront condo. Its ad features a preppy and distinctly unpierced blonde and the line: &quot;Williamsburg, All Grown Up.&quot;

Anthropologist Neil Smith of City University&#039;s Center for Place, Culture and Politics has tracked gentrification with an obsession worthy of Ahab. He&#039;s charted the transformation of blue-collar neighborhoods, from Shaw in the District and San Francisco&#039;s Mission to the wharfs of London and the canal-lined streets of Amsterdam. This isn&#039;t the old block-by-block stuff, the grinding rehab of old rowhouses by scruffy young gentry. He&#039;s convinced he&#039;s found a new beast.
&quot;&quot;We are witnessing the corporate and geographical restructuring of cities -- the wealthy are suburbanizing the center and pushing the poor to the fringes, and it&#039;s turbocharged,&quot; Smith says. &quot;Artists are disposable -- developers just toss them out in hopes they&#039;ll colonize the next &#039;hot&#039; neighborhood.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey gavin,<br />
see the gay neighborhoods are usually like the west village and chelsea have traditionally been turned out by the art crowd before  the double income no kids crew moves in. </p>
<p>here is an article in the washington post that might help you understand what i am saying and then we can get back to your  more general kvetching about &#8220;Poor people&#8221; , which may be the most racist and overbearing part of your scree. What makes me not poor? My whiteness?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/20/AR2007022001912.html" rel="nofollow">this kind of press from the washington post</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Overnight, another preserve of working-class American culture is rendered unaffordable to thousands of families &#8212; and to the hipsters themselves. Want to know the next move? Toll Brothers, the nation&#8217;s preeminent McMansion builder, has built a new luxe waterfront condo. Its ad features a preppy and distinctly unpierced blonde and the line: &#8220;Williamsburg, All Grown Up.&#8221;</p>
<p>Anthropologist Neil Smith of City University&#8217;s Center for Place, Culture and Politics has tracked gentrification with an obsession worthy of Ahab. He&#8217;s charted the transformation of blue-collar neighborhoods, from Shaw in the District and San Francisco&#8217;s Mission to the wharfs of London and the canal-lined streets of Amsterdam. This isn&#8217;t the old block-by-block stuff, the grinding rehab of old rowhouses by scruffy young gentry. He&#8217;s convinced he&#8217;s found a new beast.<br />
&#8220;&#8221;We are witnessing the corporate and geographical restructuring of cities &#8212; the wealthy are suburbanizing the center and pushing the poor to the fringes, and it&#8217;s turbocharged,&#8221; Smith says. &#8220;Artists are disposable &#8212; developers just toss them out in hopes they&#8217;ll colonize the next &#8216;hot&#8217; neighborhood.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. McGinnis</title>
		<link>http://www.arthurmag.com/2009/10/21/defense-industry-report-iii/comment-page-1/#comment-176268</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. McGinnis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 16:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with &quot;hipsters,&quot; in NY particularly, is that they move in and create an insular society, that uses the poverty around them as a backdrop to fuel their suburban refugee fantasies. They are just as guilty as the apparently rich, who wear different costumes, who move in to open boutiques and condos with doormen. These are all people who could care less about the actually poor people around them. I just wish more of these people, regardless of their outfits and bank accounts, actually cared more for people who aren&#039;t as well off as they are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with &#8220;hipsters,&#8221; in NY particularly, is that they move in and create an insular society, that uses the poverty around them as a backdrop to fuel their suburban refugee fantasies. They are just as guilty as the apparently rich, who wear different costumes, who move in to open boutiques and condos with doormen. These are all people who could care less about the actually poor people around them. I just wish more of these people, regardless of their outfits and bank accounts, actually cared more for people who aren&#8217;t as well off as they are.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. McGinnis</title>
		<link>http://www.arthurmag.com/2009/10/21/defense-industry-report-iii/comment-page-1/#comment-176263</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. McGinnis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 15:28:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The Gays&quot; do not come after the &quot;alpha hipsters,&quot; they come BEFORE, during or ARE the&quot;alpha hipsters.&quot;

I also think it&#039;s a bit creepy that you want people to live in blighted poverty so you can live in a picturesque fantasy. THAT is what makes &quot;hipsters&quot; irritating. New ones or old ones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The Gays&#8221; do not come after the &#8220;alpha hipsters,&#8221; they come BEFORE, during or ARE the&#8221;alpha hipsters.&#8221;</p>
<p>I also think it&#8217;s a bit creepy that you want people to live in blighted poverty so you can live in a picturesque fantasy. THAT is what makes &#8220;hipsters&#8221; irritating. New ones or old ones.</p>
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		<title>By: Anton Lachey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anton Lachey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 15:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In a post 9/11 world I find this kind of arrogance and pretension refreshing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a post 9/11 world I find this kind of arrogance and pretension refreshing.</p>
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		<title>By: Staunch Crowleyite</title>
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		<dc:creator>Staunch Crowleyite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 20:59:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, run - all the way to Territory Records &amp; Barbecue!</description>
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		<title>By: DAVE REEVES</title>
		<link>http://www.arthurmag.com/2009/10/21/defense-industry-report-iii/comment-page-1/#comment-176251</link>
		<dc:creator>DAVE REEVES</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 18:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>good. run for your life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good. run for your life.</p>
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		<title>By: hiponeta</title>
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		<dc:creator>hiponeta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 18:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IN A POST 9/11 WORLD I FIND THIS KIND OF ARROGANCE AND PRETENSION TERRIFYING</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IN A POST 9/11 WORLD I FIND THIS KIND OF ARROGANCE AND PRETENSION TERRIFYING</p>
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